The problem With Those Parables .....

"I love the way Jesus spoke in parables so simple everybody could understand them"

"Are you for real? Is that what you think?"

"Yes: Parables! Those short simple stories that even a child could understand"

"Could you read a passage for me please?"

"Which one? Have you it there?"

"Here! Read it out loud for me: Luke 8:10"

"And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables;  That seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand"

"Now tell me if even a child could understand Jesus: was actually hiding the message by using parables"

"But that's mad: God is desperately trying to get a message through to man, sends Jesus down to proclaim that message and then hides the message from all except 12 fishermen. Beats me!"

"That's what it says..that hearing they might not hear and seeing they might not understand!"

"But thats confusion on a large scale:: Is God trying to save the world or is He not"

"God is not trying save anything: When he wants to save He saves: When He wants to hide something He hides it:  When He locks people into unbelief all they can do is wait for His release time"

"Now God would never lock anybody into unbelief"

"Some day we will look at Pharaoh: Or read Romans 11:32 for yourself later

"But doesn't the Bible clearly say God needs man and evangelists and God TV or everyone will be lost"

"Listen carefully: God could save all 7 billion on this earth in the next 10 minutes if He so desired but instead He has limited Himself to work within a time plan and he has also committed  Himself to involve man in the process in a very powerful but limited way"

" Begging your pardon now but I feel what you are saying is wrong: My bible says somewhere in Romans that "all who call upon the name of the Lord will be saved: So it is not limited at all and in my opinion, it's all up to man and that is why we have no great revival or salvation as man has just lost interest"

"OK: Let me tell you a story: I go down to the nearest graveyard: Evening time: All is quiet; Then I shout out at the top of my voice: Everyone who lifts up his head from the grave and calls for my help I promise to lift up out of that grave:

"Thats stupid: How could a dead person lift up his head and ask for help"

"You have spoken truth: Neither can a spiritually dead person lift his voice or heart or soul to seek salvation.

Those without Christ are as dead as anyone in that graveyard:

"But you did say God has committed to involving man in this salvation. How?"

In |Romans 10 after the passage you mentioned Paul asks the same questions: How can anyone believe, hear etc. He gives an insight into God and man involvement: There are 5 steps: A person firstly has to be commissioned: That means given the authority from God for a specific task: Huge!

No 2 they have to herald the good news of 2 Cor 5: 19 FF: That is proclaim aloud and with that authority the great good news:Then an amzing thing can happen: it's as if those words proclaimed flash resurrection power into the one being spoken to,  they come alive enough to Hear: Yes they now hear as if for first time:Then  They are gifted with God Faith (phil 1:29) and cry out to God for salvation"

"The miracle prayer I give out seems much simpler than all that"

"The miracle prayer treats God like a magic box and if you use the right code it opens: Nothing on earth has power to raise the dead (spiritually) than God's formula as outlined above: It's not of man: It's of God" ..

"I was at a prayer meeting last week and we spent ages pleading with God to save the Jews"

" Wow! And did nobody at all think of reading Romans 11: 25 --32?"

"I suppose you want me .to ..

"Yes: i have it opened here for you

" For I am not willing for you to be ignorant of this secret, brethren, lest you may be passing for prudent among yourselves, that callousness, in part, on Israel has come, until the complement of the nations may be entering.And thus all Israel shall be saved, ......For God locks up all together in stubbornness, that He should be merciful to all."

"Do you understand now:?"

" A little: But what about Messianic Jews?

"Galatians 3:28ff deals with that red herring: A mixed marriage of bits of Israel and bits of Christ"

"Have to go for now: Sometimes I wish God did things in a simple way like man does"

"His ways are higher and better than mans:God today is not in the job of saving Saudi Arabia or Jews or  90% of any group: He is choosing a small band as a sort of pilot scheme: to them alone he is freely granting God-Faith; They will be raptured and enter the heavenlies before the Jews are un locked to be born again and rule on earth for 1000 years